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Post by xpistissopheiax on Jun 21, 2015 11:45:05 GMT -5
I listened to this whole interview and I'm completely confused. www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4-imkYbPWwAlso I don't understand why we have a copy of The Sacred Book of Two Principles, and other texts attributed to the Cathars, if they never existed? |
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Post by rmcdra on Jun 26, 2015 19:43:06 GMT -5
I listened to this whole interview and I'm completely confused. www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4-imkYbPWwAlso I don't understand why we have a copy of The Sacred Book of Two Principles, and other texts attributed to the Cathars, if they never existed? I'll have to listen more to it but what I got from it is that there were possibly individuals who fit the bill of being Cathars but no Catharism movement and that it was an invention of the 19th century scholars. His argument is that religion is not defined by doctrine but by the practices of believers. I'll have to re-watch the video again but from the little bit I did watch that's what I got. I'm still trying to grasp what he said. |
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Post by xpistissopheiax on Jun 26, 2015 22:54:37 GMT -5
Well if you can figure it out let me know. I'm completely confused about this  |
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Post by rmcdra on Jul 2, 2015 9:07:39 GMT -5
Okay I'm get his argument now. Basically there is little to no evidence of the Cathars existing. The little evidence there is, is questionable and things that should exist if they were a movement don't. A big example being that there is no records of any heresy trials for the Cathars. Since heresy was a legal process, there should be government records from the time period of the Cathar trials but there is not one. While there were heretics burned and certainly some from the Cathars' area, there is no mention of the crime being Cathar or Catharism. Documents claimed to be of the cathars come from questionable sources and one of the sources is known for making forgeries and fake historical document. So yeah its an argument of absence. He's right, if his idea is correct and holds up, it will change religious studies history.
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