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Post by friendofsophia on Mar 9, 2014 9:44:35 GMT -5
I most likely would have got some good insights into this topic if I could have got this monkey suit of mine out of bed in time for the Alpha Omega skype church as I saw they discussed Exegesis of the Soul (blame it on the archons for stealing an hour early this morning lol). Anyway I'd like to see how your various conceptions of the soul fit into the spirit and flesh dichotomy. Do you see it as Sophia? Just another word for the mind? Just another word for spirit? I know soul in Greek is psyche and it seems to be used like this in the Nag Hammadi and the NT at times but at other times like spirit (and at other times spirit seems to be used more like psyche). What's your thoughts on this?
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Post by gnosticbishop on Mar 11, 2014 18:46:24 GMT -5
I thought about this for some time and it was a crap shoot as to what it really was as without anyone actually finding one, there was no real way to know.
Apotheosis helped me get a clearer picture of how things are but even with that this is only what I gleaned and that is not knowledge it is speculation.
What I do know is that we have a telepathic transmitter within us that can send our thoughts to the cosmic consciousness that I think most call God. I do not and just see it as our next evolutionary step.
Our souls are the actual information the we upload, so to speak, when we die. What is left behind is just our bodies. What is uploaded is all that lives on. We could call our consciousness a soul I suppose but it is just our consciousness and that is a better word.
So in a sense, we could say that the soul is the process of reaching the cosmic consciousness that I see as what we call God. In that sense, our souls die after doing their jobs.
Regards
DL
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Post by Soulgazer on Mar 12, 2014 8:13:20 GMT -5
I most likely would have got some good insights into this topic if I could have got this monkey suit of mine out of bed in time for the Alpha Omega skype church as I saw they discussed Exegesis of the Soul (blame it on the archons for stealing an hour early this morning lol). Anyway I'd like to see how your various conceptions of the soul fit into the spirit and flesh dichotomy. Do you see it as Sophia? Just another word for the mind? Just another word for spirit? I know soul in Greek is psyche and it seems to be used like this in the Nag Hammadi and the NT at times but at other times like spirit (and at other times spirit seems to be used more like psyche). What's your thoughts on this? My answer can't be more than just my thought, but this is the big question. I've heard that death is just stepping through a door. I've heard that when the light goes out the room goes dark. Maybe it's both----- some people are walking dead, and never had a light to turn out; Some people are the opposite, though in my sixty years of life I've met so few. I try to live in my light, just in case I might go on after this monkey suit dies. If the light goes out instead, I haven't lost anything----the positive changes that gnosis has brought to myself are beyond what I saw myself becoming. So who knows? No one--- but we will all find out. I think of my soul as "me". Not the whiny "me" that keeps competing with the world, but the "me" that has discovered that I am just a spirit having a human experience. The "Exegesis on the Soul", if it had a companion book, matches up quite nicely with the "Hymn of the Pearl": gnosis.org/library/hymnpearl.htm |
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Post by phantasman on Mar 12, 2014 13:55:19 GMT -5
I most likely would have got some good insights into this topic if I could have got this monkey suit of mine out of bed in time for the Alpha Omega skype church as I saw they discussed Exegesis of the Soul (blame it on the archons for stealing an hour early this morning lol). Anyway I'd like to see how your various conceptions of the soul fit into the spirit and flesh dichotomy. Do you see it as Sophia? Just another word for the mind? Just another word for spirit? I know soul in Greek is psyche and it seems to be used like this in the Nag Hammadi and the NT at times but at other times like spirit (and at other times spirit seems to be used more like psyche). What's your thoughts on this? I believe flesh and spirit both pull the mind in different directions (not necessarily opposite ones). The mind (our ability to see, understand)is housed in the physical brain. The mind controls/feeds the soul. The spirit is the force of desire. So is the flesh. Both a catalyst from different "Gods". Christ taught us to "hate" the one and "love" the other. The word "desire" in it's root means "of the father". The body has desires from the creator God (and father). The spirit of truth is the desires of the True God of spirit. We move one way or the other, and not be caught in the "middle", as Philip says. And so he dwells either in this world or in the resurrection or in the middle place. God forbid that I be found in there! In this world, there is good and evil. Its good things are not good, and its evil things not evil. But there is evil after this world which is truly evil - what is called "the middle". It is death. While we are in this world, it is fitting for us to acquire the resurrection, so that when we strip off the flesh, we may be found in rest and not walk in the middle. For many go astray on the way. For it is good to come forth from the world before one has sinned.
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