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Post by phantasman on Aug 15, 2013 11:12:42 GMT -5
If God resides in Heaven, and heaven is within us and all around us, does God reside within us?
The Mormon Joseph Smith says that God is flesh and bone. This got me thinking. Would this be a spiritual message that each man has God within him? I hate to sound far fetched. I just examine the many possibilities. And some of what Smith did say, does match up with some of what I read in the non Canonical scriptures.
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Post by phantasman on Aug 16, 2013 9:33:59 GMT -5
What is the typical Christian Gnostic view of God described as?
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Post by Soulgazer on Aug 16, 2013 16:36:57 GMT -5
A Christian "gnostic" view of God from the Sophia of Jesus:
The Savior said: "He Who Is is ineffable. No principle knew him, no authority, no subjection, nor any creature from the foundation of the world until now, except he alone, and anyone to whom he wants to make revelation through him who is from First Light. From now on, I am the Great Savior. For he is immortal and eternal. Now he is eternal, having no birth; for everyone who has birth will perish. He is unbegotten, having no beginning; for everyone who has a beginning has an end. Since no one rules over him, he has no name; for whoever has a name is the creation of another."
(BG 84, 13-17 adds: He is unnameable. He has no human form; for whoever has human form is the creation of another).
"And he has a semblance of his own - not like what you have seen and received, but a strange semblance that surpasses all things and is better than the universe. It looks to every side and sees itself from itself. Since it is infinite, he is ever incomprehensible. He is imperishable and has no likeness (to anything). He is unchanging good. He is faultless. He is eternal. He is blessed. While he is not known, he ever knows himself. He is immeasurable. He is untraceable. He is perfect, having no defect. He is imperishability blessed. He is called 'Father of the Universe'".
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Post by phantasman on Sept 25, 2013 11:29:05 GMT -5
I was reading Pistis Sophia. After reading much into it (98 chapters), Jesus talks about knowing the "one and only word of the ineffable". He continues and we get this:
-hearken, therefore, now, that I may tell you that mystery, which is [ . . .?].
I stopped reading.
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Post by Soulgazer on Sept 25, 2013 12:21:34 GMT -5
As to exactly "where" in Christian Gnostic thought; think of those little russian dolls that stack. The outer doll represents the Monad. Though remember we have just taken an infinite Mind and relegated it to the size and shape of a Russian doll  The next layers in are the Logos, followed by the Demiurge, followed by the Archons, and finally to us. |
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Post by phantasman on Nov 5, 2013 6:47:56 GMT -5
Are these then................Aeons?
I had a silly dream upon waking this morning. The Demiurge and his archons created dinosaurs pre man, to play on the Earth. Each having their own ability. The T-Rex (King) was Yaltabaoth's toy. At the end, he wiped them out to make way for man.
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Post by Soulgazer on Nov 5, 2013 9:02:11 GMT -5
Are these then................Aeons? Not EXACTLY, but close enough for our purposes. Might be a lot of truth in that  |
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Post by xpistissopheiax on Nov 7, 2013 20:57:54 GMT -5
I had a silly dream upon waking this morning. The Demiurge and his archons created dinosaurs pre man, to play on the Earth. Each having their own ability. The T-Rex (King) was Yaltabaoth's toy. At the end, he wiped them out to make way for man. reminds me a little of this  |
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Post by phantasman on Nov 11, 2013 10:13:45 GMT -5
Yeah. Kind of like Mark Twain tripping. Good to see u back. |
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Post by xpistissopheiax on Nov 13, 2013 20:06:34 GMT -5
good to be back  |
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Post by rmcdra on Nov 15, 2013 22:50:50 GMT -5
A quote I like about where God is:
But we are able to mention what is more exalted than this: for do not think in your heart that God exists in a place. If you localize the Lord of all in a place, then it is fitting for you to say that the place is more exalted than he who dwells in it. For that which contains is more exalted than that which is contained. For there is no place which is called incorporeal. For it is not right for us to say that God is corporeal. For the consequence (would be) that we (must) attribute both increase and decrease to the corporeal, but also that he (God) who is subject to these will not remain imperishable. - Teachings of Silvanus
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