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Post by rmcdra on Jul 10, 2013 16:01:29 GMT -5
Share with me how you view the Aeons and the Archons? Do you view them as literal beings or as psychological? Both? How do they interact in your life?
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Post by waywardwanderer on Jul 12, 2013 21:52:59 GMT -5
So far my thinking is that they are representations of psychological forces that are common to the human condition, but I think in a sense they are literal as well. Literal in the sense that their effects on the world can are real and can be seen. I suppose sort of a broad acting force that has a literal pull over humanity, something both within and without us. I doubt if I am making any sense, the concept is clear in my head but somewhat hard to relate.
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Post by phantasman on Jul 14, 2013 13:15:46 GMT -5
I see Archons as similar to what Biblically describes Arch-Angels. Head spirits below God but above spiritual angels. This is just a conceived thought using physical awareness. Aeons I don't know. Realms? I think we exist spiritually in Aeons. Archons, being spiritual, can effect spiritual awareness in us, but not MAKE us do anything. They can effect thought process. OK. Tell me where I'm wrong.  |
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Post by Soulgazer on Jul 14, 2013 15:18:07 GMT -5
I see Archons as similar to what Biblically describes Arch-Angels. Head spirits below God but above spiritual angels. This is just a conceived thought using physical awareness. Aeons I don't know. Realms? I think we exist spiritually in Aeons. Archons, being spiritual, can effect spiritual awareness in us, but not MAKE us do anything. They can effect thought process. OK. Tell me where I'm wrong. I am not going to tell you that you are wrong if that's the way you see it. Whatever works to get the end result you are looking for. What works for me are seeing the archons as controlling forces, physical, emotional and psychological that work to keep us spiritually blind and from realizing that we are collectively part of the Kingdom. Sort of the army that works to keep us subjegated to Yaldoboath. |
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Post by phantasman on Jul 15, 2013 11:02:54 GMT -5
No problem.
So there are no Archons that are beneficial to truth? To be honest, I just don't know, but need to, as I see them referred to in much of the non Canonical scriptures and mentioned by church fathers.
I remember, James, that you once said you didn't believe in angels. Are Archons being viewed as angels in OT theology?
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Post by Soulgazer on Jul 15, 2013 13:58:36 GMT -5
No problem. So there are no Archons that are beneficial to truth? To be honest, I just don't know, but need to, as I see them referred to in much of the non Canonical scriptures and mentioned by church fathers. I remember, James, that you once said you didn't believe in angels. Are Archons being viewed as angels in OT theology? I think Archons are different than angels. Archons are very real---- They cover the testable gamut from the Govenor of a state to the "fight or flight" mechanism that is hard wired into everyone. It's not that they are not useful, but we strive to be either free of them, or at bare minimum understand what they do--- like we would not commit a crime so as to fall under the archon of law, we also want to be able to control our own desires and emotions---so that we can be our own persons To do this, we have to know what is hard wired and what is free will, and how the hard wired emotions affect our choices. It requires knowing ones self--- knowing what one can handle and what one should stay away from. The archons are those archetypes of self, as well as outside power. |
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Post by phantasman on Jul 15, 2013 18:55:55 GMT -5
So, is this hard wired part of us due to being an image of a creator God rather than the Father of Christ?
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Post by Soulgazer on Jul 15, 2013 20:42:18 GMT -5
So, is this hard wired part of us due to being an image of a creator God rather than the Father of Christ? Yes. The father of Christ gave us the seed of divinity(according to the mythology). What the father gave us was a lifeline out of slavery. The different mythologies aproach it differently; Alpha & Omega uses a homoginized version dropping all the names of the differing Aeons and Archons making it more adaptible to our non educated in classic Greek Philosopy minds, as the Sethian and Valentinian get unnecessarily complex(for me anyway). Anyway, what it ends up describing in imagery and metaphor, is humanities search for God. Because they only have human wisdom, they end up creating a false creator god. He is judgmental or as the Marcionites and Valentinians put it, a "god of justice" because he is a product of wisdom without love, and an imperfect image of the True God, who is Love. So the mythollogies serve at minimum a dual fold purpose; they explain why we are the way we are and also explain how to be what your potential is. It was a simple concept to the Greeks, but most westerners have trrouble understanding that "mercy" and "justice" are mutually exclusive terms; in their view anyway, you get what you lived. |
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