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Noah
Aug 3, 2014 8:58:37 GMT -5
Post by phantasman on Aug 3, 2014 8:58:37 GMT -5
I watched the controversial movie with Russel Crowe last night. I found it entertaining as well as having a depth that, on the outside people will see a misguided attempt at Hollywood to change the "story", but in it's inner message it separates the physical understanding and spiritual aspects of men. A movie is nothing more than a painted image from a mind (or minds). But even though the director strives for a more epic version of the event, the spiritual remains intact and stimulates a more gnostic thought.
A couple of key thoughts? If Noah did build an ark of this magnitude, God (?) had to have been more involved than simply saying "build it". Wiping man from the Earth in no way eliminates evil. In the end, love (spiritual) is what the new covenant is based, and Noah learns this after believing he has been "following Gods (?) will".
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Noah
Aug 3, 2014 23:52:09 GMT -5
Post by xpistissopheiax on Aug 3, 2014 23:52:09 GMT -5
I've been fairly interested in the movie since I'd been hearing it was more based on Kabbalah etc. Apparently most fundamentalists have no idea there are other versions of the story and of course they have no respect for any other viewpoints on it.
I don't know if this is "trolling" on the director's part (he claims to be atheist) but this is the kind of thing that certainly amuses me at least ^_^
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Noah
Aug 4, 2014 17:32:16 GMT -5
Post by phantasman on Aug 4, 2014 17:32:16 GMT -5
Atheist? Hmmm. God doesn't talk. You assume he's there. But Noah gets images, and figures out (with the help of Methuselah)that a flood is coming. Another image is Adam and Eve, Illuminating figures, like glowing spirits before the "sin". What struck me, is the image of the serpent. It comes towards the camera while shedding it's skin. Noah (and Noahs father) wraps a snake skin around their arm as they touch their children in a ritual of coming of age, when they tell them the truth.
While the Orthodox seem to despise the serpent, the director seems to move towards it somewhat. And God is always referred to as "the creator", not God.
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Noah
Aug 4, 2014 20:37:53 GMT -5
Post by xpistissopheiax on Aug 4, 2014 20:37:53 GMT -5
Yeah I heard that Noah was trying to murder people to appease the "creator" which certainly sounds familiar
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Noah
Aug 5, 2014 10:43:56 GMT -5
Post by phantasman on Aug 5, 2014 10:43:56 GMT -5
I don't remember that. Noah was a separatist. When he saw dead animals from slaughtering he would exclaim "men!". He acted in self defense when 3 men tried to attack him.
He defends his family in the ark when the "men" try to obtain it before he can close the door. The key point is the watchers. They are stone gollums of spirits of fallen angels dating to Nod (taking care of Cain) that are looking for forgiveness from the creator. They make the decision to help Noah in making the ark, and help in the end to protect it from the multitude of invaders. They are finally overcome by the invaders, and the creator deals them (fallen angels) a just reward.
Don't want to ruin the plot, so I'll leave it there.
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